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If only people took the time to get a feel for the Visual Interface (VI) editor on every UNIX/Linux...
You can set up every line of code as a shortcut and design 90% of a page in 2 minutes (completely avoid typos too). There's too many features about it to just rant a big list. There's so much power that 5% would entirely spam this thread because the possibilities are so immensely, astoundingly, abundantly incredulous (lol).
There's nothing like it!
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VI editor tutorials are easily found on any popular search engine.

ttry this in ur css

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#bottom p.footer {
font-size: 10px;
}


and make sure it is at the bottom most of your css

Fantastic thanks allot 

A LOT, 2 words, one L. Sorry but that's a pet peve of mine.

Why should you never use pt?  I never do but what is the reason not to?

Why should you never use pt?  I never do but what is the reason not to?

I can't think of a reason not to. PT just stands for points and it's a perfectly valid option to use, just like px, in, cm, mm, or a number of other acceptable units

W3c says, "Do not specify the font-size in pt, or other absolute length units. They render inconsistently across platforms and can't be resized by the User Agent (e.g browser)."
Good Usage of CSS's font properties

I could be wrong but I think the answer is:
HERE
Sorry, I generally don't send people a link to a tutorial but to be honest, I never heard of the HR element until you posted that. It made me wonder what the HR element was and I did a search. I just thought I'd share the result.

Well, if the table stretches taller, it's not going to push the footer down automatically. You can make the main content scrollable by adding:

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overflow:auto;
and that will solve your problem (although many people would argue that having a scrollbar is evil)
I think that's your best bet if you don't want to keep repositioning the individual tables through CSS every time you make a change to the content.

Wouldn't you just move them both the same distance downward? You can't position just one table and both tables move. Correct me if I misunderstood your inquiry.

As far as layering goes, you can add one of these to an ID/class...

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z-index: 1;

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z-index: 2;

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z-index: 3;
and it keeps going up. The higher the number, the closer the layer is to you (in other words, the layer with the highest number will be on top).

[DO NOT]

ttry this in ur css

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#bottom p.footer {
font-size: 10px;
}


and make sure it is at the bottom most of your css

Fantastic thanks allot 

I'm sorry, what was the point of specifying a font family in the first place if that's all you wanted? You also asked about the size of the table.
The CSS that you used in the first place works - Test this out:

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<style type="text/css">
.test {font: normal 10px Verdana, sans-serif;}
</style>
<div class="test">
testing font out
</div>

This means that your font was not the size you wanted it because of the way it was being called (which is why I asked you to post the HTML).
I'm not trying to nitpick but please, help me to help you. Post only the code relevant to your question (HTML and CSS) and don't throw an entire stylesheet at the viewer. You can't expect them to look at your entire source either. I really really don't want to come off being rude and I sincerely intend no offense. These are all things I have done on other forums in the past myself.

Again, I hope I didn't come off rude. Here's what someone said to me when I did that:

Before even looking what was wrong with the page, I wanted to reply, saying: "Open the file in your favorite text editor, press CTRL+A, press backspace and then press CTRL+S." But I won't say that.

As for the problem...

LOL

Btw, nice website.  Quite funny.

PS... DO NOT specify the font-size in pt. I assumed you had all the ID calls set up properly (and didn't know what document type you had either) and was just playing guess-and-check.

ok i changed it to 10pt but still the same?

Could you please post the HTML you are using to call the ID?

[pt]

Please can someone tell me where I have gone wrong, I can't seem to get footer to be the font and size I want?

Use 10pt, not 10px (for the font).
I don't know how you are expecting the footer to be a certain size when you haven't specified any size.

Side note:  Sorry guys, I feel unloyal lately... I will start posting more soon. This is a free hosting service and the least I could do is participate in the forums.

I'm feeling generous. I have finals tomorrow and I'll be sleeping after that but soon I'll just write your layout for you. I'm forgetful so Email me at hypnoticvibe (at) gmail (dot) com

Right now, I'm working on a non-HTML version of my website and bought a nice template. The entire layout is in tables with the exception of calling an external stylesheet with 2 lines of CSS code. This is for the fonts. I played with it for a while and concluded that fonts are not easy to get working in all 3 browsers just using tables, so as far as the universal table thing... I'm only in 95% agreeance.

That code absolutely works in the main 3 browsers perfectly. I garuntee you. That's why I use it. I can't say which is better (tables vs. CSS) but I can tell you that code I posted is a godsend if you want it to customize your page for all 3. I'm no expert. I'm your average user with 3 browsers.

This will cause problems with scrolling if the window is too small.

I don't know why someone would have their window that small (or know anyone who browses with their window so small) but I'm sure you've been doing this longer than me so I'm probably not smart to debate.

On a lighter note, the website http://www.opera.com/ uses a whole lot of CSS and they have some genius webdesigners.

well good for them. I'm just going by experience and what my Image Manipulation teacher, Ian Tepoot, told me. He's a pretty accomplished Graphic Designer who's been doing this for about 10 years, so I go by what he says usually. 

I play devil's advocate to expose the facts. The, "Well good for them" was unnecessary. I intended no offense and was not attacking you.

Personally, I would stick with tabled, for right now.
As of right now all browsers can read them, as for css, no. well, yes and no. all browser read it difrently..
Untill CSS is more gloabal, I'm stickin with tables my self

I thought my CSS example would create a bunch of tables (if repeated and altered). I'm new to this. Can you explain what you mean? XHTML tables? The basic HTML tags like this?

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<table>
     <tr>
          <td>
              BLAH BLAH 1
          </td>
     </tr>
     <tr>
          <td>
              BLAH BLAH 2
          </td>
     </tr>
</table>

This will cause problems with scrolling if the window is too small.

I don't know why someone would have their window that small (or know anyone who browses with their window so small) but I'm sure you've been doing this longer than me so I'm probably not smart to debate.

On a lighter note, the website http://www.opera.com/ uses a whole lot of CSS and they have some genius webdesigners.

http://forum.freepgs.com/index.php?topic=1086.0
Set up your entire page using the concept I posted in that thread.
Use

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top: NUMBERpx; instead for the vertical alignment of each table.

*edit
It works now!

Thank you.
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